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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.93 (109.3 bb)
BB: $20.46 (204.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $14.29 (142.9 bb)
MP: $12.40 (124 bb)
CO: $11.07 (110.7 bb)
BTN: $10.25 (102.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BB raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.10, BB calls $1.10

Flop: ($4.25) J Q 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.20, BB calls $2.20

Turn: ($8.65) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

River: ($15.65) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.49

Preflop: Standard open and value 4bet. The BB plays 18/13 in 83 hands and 3bets 11,1% (28,6% vs Hero). Maybe the size could be a bit bigger since we are deeper. When he called, I think his range is AQ+, AK, QQ-JJ and occassionally KK+ and TT.

Flop: Not the greatest flop because he might have sets there, but he also has alot of AQ, AK and KQ, I believe. I think cbetting is optimal, but not sure how to react to raise. I feel like I should fold because I can't see him value raising AQ, KK or bluffing AK.

Turn: If I was ahead on the flop, I probably still am. When he called the flop, I believe he has something like AQ, KQ and occasionally AK, KK and TT. Sometimes he would slowplay sets, but I expect them to raise on that board on the flop. So, I decided to target those one pair hands and AK. Since it's hard to expect them to call 2 barrels in 4bet pot OOP, I decided to bet smaller. At the same time the plan was to fold if he raises because I don't see him bluffing or value raising worse, especially when I block AsKs. So with those smaller bet I give myself a chance to fold vs his shove.

River: Very interesting card because AQ and KQ came there, so the plan was to fold if he donks. When he checks, the first instinct was to check back, but then I realised that there is no point for him to check Qx because he should expect me to call almost 100% of my range, so no need for him to slowplay. At that point I put him on AK, KK and TT so decided to shove.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

does he donk Qx all the time though? or in other words, does he call AK KK TT more often than he checks Qx? i think it's an unreasonable assumption


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009

preflop I'd prefer slightly more than 2.1x, 2.2 to 2.5x IMO
as played, OTF I normally bet smaller but on this particular board I do like the bet size (related to pot)
OTT same I agree with bet size
OTR with just an over pair I like to pot control and play way ahead way behind. there are a lot of Q in his range and KTs, 8Ts might have made it there as well depending on the type of player so I'd check behind.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like the xb on river as Qx beat us and Jx are not calling 3 streets.


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
I like the xb on river as Qx beat us and Jx are not calling 3 streets.

Jx might call the river as a bluff catcher but it is only part of his range. I think cb has better ev although an equation might prove me wrong :)

cba to write the equation either


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Funny miniraise pre denotes you've got pretty strong hand, try to avoid that, he propably got suspicious, as other would have. X/b river I wonder.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Is checking back river too nitty? He's not calling Tx/TT, probably folding any Jx he has (AJ maybe) and the triple barrel probably gets value from KK exclusively. It's a pretty grim board for AA in a 4bet pot really; he can easily have AQ/QQ/JJ (as easily as the combos allow, anyway).


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by Tomaloc
does he donk Qx all the time though? or in other words, does he call AK KK TT more often than he checks Qx? i think it's an unreasonable assumption

The more I think about the hand, the more I agree with you. I wrote my assumtions about the river spot above, but probably checking back would have a slightly higher EV than shoving, I would imagine. Anyway, he folded so who knows what did he have. KK is the most likelly, maybe badly played AK.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by Berezovaya
Funny miniraise pre denotes you've got pretty strong hand, try to avoid that, he propably got suspicious, as other would have. X/b river I wonder.

I was thought that 4bet size should be 2,1-2,5X. For this spot particularly, I agree that it should be closer to 2,3 since we are deep.


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