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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($367)
Hero ($447)
UTG ($200)
UTG+1 ($206)
CO ($261)
BTN ($152)

Dealt to Hero T♣ T♥

fold, fold, CO raises to $5, fold, SB calls $4, Hero raises to $25, CO calls $20, SB calls $20

FLOP ($75) 8♦ 4♦ 6♥

SB checks, Hero bets $45, CO folds, SB folds

Hero shows T♣ T♥

Hero wins $72

CO: 21/17
0% fold to 3bet (2)
150 hands

SB: 23/18
75% fold to 3bet (6)

Just curious how you would proceed with the hand if you got raised here. And do you like the cbet in the first place or could there be some merit in just checking, and hope that one of the villain stabs?

A cbet here also looks superstrong so maybe a c/c or c/r wouldn't be so bad?


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ilares
Joined: 25.10.2009

y c/c or c/r can be great, depends on vilain ofc

if you got raised, go equilab with set+fd+99+A8s depending on vilain and see your equity and if he can raise/fold here to see if you fold or broke


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breena
Joined: 14.09.2010

I think the CB is correct as I would have to be pretty sure CO is going to bet to check here.

I'm not to sure about getting raised here though. I find these spots tough especially how deep you are with SB, sometimes I just make a nitty fold if it looks like villain is trying to get stacks in and hasn't been check raising or re raising pots.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

bump


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

i b/f against SB, go broke against CO I think.
TT=AA here most of the time against players who will always backraise JJ+.

SB is mostly set mining here in my opinion but has the occasional AQs, and rarely KQs/AJs.

CO can have a much wider speculative range.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello axelphoney,

Don't really see any reason that makes me go broke very loose in those spots. What do we assume to see once he raises there? Of course I'd expect to be at the best vs overcard+FD type of hand or some combos of sets. You guys were with CO a bit deep so definitely 66/88 and maybe even time to time some combos of 44. Equity against that part:

Board: 8♦4♦6♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    28.08%  27.46%   0.62% { ThTc }
MP3    71.92%  71.30%   0.62% { 88, 66, AdKd, AdQd, KdQd, AdJd, KdJd, QdJd }

so I don't really see how I can easily go broke against CO being even a bit deeper and rather 0 information on his postflop play. Not to talk about the combos which may sometimes even slowplay as KK/AA or whatsoever, though being a bit deeper I'd expect them more often raise.

Though I'd still CB for the given part that I'd rather protect my hand from draws/overcards than face one on the turn on which we would have to Check/Fold even.

Best Regards.


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