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NL2, TPGK, UTG vs BB, Raise the donk bet OTF?

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mcvarga
Joined: 06.10.2014

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $1.99 (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 18.10, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 108)
Hero (UTG): $2.03
MP: $1.73 (VPIP: 20.44, PFR: 16.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 186)
CO: $4.63 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 185)
BTN: $2.15 (VPIP: 24.28, PFR: 16.86, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 178)
SB: $3.13 (VPIP: 15.57, PFR: 11.48, 3Bet Preflop: 2.26, Hands: 757)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J♠ A♣

Hero raises to $0.08, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.17, 2 players) 9♣ A♥ Q♥
BB bets $0.08, Hero ???

Spoiler

Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.77, 2 players) 8♠
BB bets $0.49, Hero calls $0.49

River: ($1.75, 2 players) 3♦
BB bets $1.11, fold

BB wins $1.67

$0.02 was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.

Q1: Raise the flop for value?
A1: We should call with top pair J's or higher as a better play. Raising is fine here too.

Q2: Raise the turn?
Q2: He is a decent player and 8 hits on the turn so I did not raise here. Because of the 8 on the turn it is not a raise here, but we should call at least one more time in case he is messing around.

Q3: Call the river?
Q3: We should fold the river because he bets big sizing on all 3 streets.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This is well played. I don't like raising OTF or OTT, you shouldn't do that with these hands. You usually want to do it with strong hands (at least 2pair) and then some bluffs.
OTR you can fold. There are some better hands possible and he shows strength with his donk 3 barrel.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

We cannot raise for value as we still can isolate ourselves vs better hands. FDs, 2P+ will call for sure and we are behind in that case. Therefore, I'd say too this is well played. River is indeed a close call but the only hand you kind of beat is AT. All other hands from A8+ have you beat.


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ovatsuG21
Joined: 03.05.2009

With no info i don't like raising neither on the flop or turn. I would call flop and turn but after you raised OTF the turn is kinda close call.


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Xixi74
Joined: 08.09.2013

He dosen't look like a crazy player.

It could be not so bad to raise on the flop, but, in my opinion, the information that we will have calling 3 streets is sooooo important.
Maybe he's often bluffing with donkbet, and we'll raise often, maybe he's often nuts, and we will fold, AND we will 3 barrels a lot when he does'nt donk bet because his range will be weak ...


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

With our hand you can call 2 streets.
No raising, no building up the pot.


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MrQNo
Joined: 30.09.2006

call flop 3/4 pot, call turn 2/3 pot, and call river 1/2 pot. No raises, fold to higher bets. If he bets carefully, he might have a weaker A, but he might have 2P/Set.


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