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(FR) TT - Set OTT in a wet board

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Alright.

So, no particular reads on the UTG, when the hand was played.
Based on a ridiculous sample size, he/she looks very loose.

$0.02 NL - Holdem - 6 players

SB: 79 BB (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 12.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.23, Hands: 1,454)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 203 BB (VPIP: 92.31, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 13)
MP: 44 BB (VPIP: 70.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
CO: 12 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 13)
BTN: 118 BB (VPIP: 20.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 310)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♥ T♦

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB
My thoughts:

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Set mining here

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 8♣ J♦ 7♦
Thoughts:

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I didn't get why vilan was cbetting so small here, but I also don't know what I was trying to achieve by check-raising my gutshot.
At that time, I thought vilan wouldn't have too many hands hitting this flop, but analyzing now, he could'd have some monster draws (AKs, AQs, QTs) and some draws + pairs combos (AJs, KJs, QJs) that he would play (small cbet/call 3-bet) that way.
Maybe QQ+ as well? Not sure about it.
With any other hand, such as 77, 88, JJ and T9, I think he would've 4-betted here and fold any trash hand or weakly-connected to this board.

Hero checks, UTG bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 5.5 BB, UTG calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (18.5 BB, 2 players) T♠
Thoughts:

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Not particulary happy here with my set, I'd probably fold to a raise, but cbetting to extract value from drawing hands and pairs.

Hero bets 10 BB, UTG calls 10 BB

River: (38.5 BB, 2 players) K♠
Thoughts:

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c-bet/fold to any raise at all. I can't imagine any worst hands raising here, but...

Hero bets 13 BB, UTG raises to 184 BB and is all-in, fold

Conclusion and questions:

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UTG wins 60.5 BB

And, after some hands, I realized that vilan was an idiot, trying every kind of random/weird move, at basically any hand.
But playing that vs unknown, fold OTF? Check/call and re-evaluate OTT?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Weird stats, but is off course a low sample. I would consider to 3bet here, but calling is also fine.

The flop seems fine, but calling his min bet isn’t to bad ether. I doubt he will fold to often and if you raise 2/3 pot or so it works most likely better.

On the turn I would bet 2/3 pot as well. I expect you get still enough action if you bet more against a fishy looking player like him. The river bet could be bigger as well and folding his raise seems fine.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Why do you bet on flop if you are not happy on turn when you hit your set?


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Yeah pre 3bet, turn just x-call, decide river.


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MrQNo
Joined: 30.09.2006

From 13 hands, there are no stats. Only random generated numbers. After 13 hands 2tabling on iPoker, i got at one table only premium cards. 100/80 and 3bet 70. It happens seldom, but it happens. At the other table, i got 0/0. Only rags. Not only for 13 hands, but for 50. I wished that someone had adapted to my „stats“ at the good table.

pf: against unknown, i would not 3bet. A call is fine.

flop: If you x/c, there are tons of cards that would make your hand worthless. You have to protect. His minbet is just silly. Pot is 9,5 after your „call“, on the wet board i would bet 3/4, this is plus the call 8,5 bb.

turn: Your thoughts are correct, your bet is way too small.

river: your opponent has shown some strange aggro with his flop minbet. And perhaps his stats are not only random. You might have the best hand, and then again, you might not. Let him bluff. x/c. And on NL2: Even call a push.


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