PLO-Challenge

4-Card PLO50 3-Betting KKT7ss and triple-barrel for value oop"

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PL Omaha 0.50(BB)
SB ($16) [VPIP: 21.7% | PFR: 10.9% | AGG: 22.4% | Hands: 1967]
HERO ($167.89) [VPIP: 27.7% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 28.3% | Flop Agg: 30.4% | Turn Agg: 31.3% | River Agg: 28.1% | 3Bet: 9.7% | Fold to 3Bet: 22.2% | 4Bet: 9.9% | Hands: 35874]
UTG ($59.86) [VPIP: 24.8% | PFR: 19.2% | AGG: 21.9% | Hands: 790]
HJ ($92.10) [VPIP: 40.5% | PFR: 12.9% | AGG: 23.8% | Hands: 299]
CO ($190.31) [VPIP: 55.1% | PFR: 28.7% | AGG: 26.1% | Flop Agg: 23.2% | Turn Agg: 30.8% | River Agg: 30.8% | 3Bet: 6.5% | 4Bet: 7.5% | Hands: 7086]
BTN ($235.33) [VPIP: 28.7% | PFR: 21.8% | AGG: 26.8% | Hands: 620]

Dealt to Hero: K♠ K♦ T♦ 7♥

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $1.75, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO ?

4-Card PLO50 AJ99sa setting up a trap in a 3BP oop

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PL Omaha 0.50(BB)
BB ($75.19) [VPIP: 24.8% | PFR: 19.2% | AGG: 21.9% | Hands: 790]
UTG ($96.60) [VPIP: 55.1% | PFR: 28.7% | AGG: 26.1% | Flop Agg: 23.2% | Turn Agg: 30.8% | River Agg: 30.8% | 3Bet: 6.5% | 4Bet: 7.5% | Hands: 7086]
HJ ($90.02) [VPIP: 33.6% | PFR: 22.9% | AGG: 29.5% | Hands: 2389]
CO ($52.38) [VPIP: 57.5% | PFR: 18.1% | AGG: 27% | Hands: 1862]
BTN ($55.51) [VPIP: 25.1% | PFR: 15.1% | AGG: 19.6% | Hands: 1782]
HERO ($50) [VPIP: 27.7% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 28.3% | Flop Agg: 30.4% | Turn Agg: 31.3% | River Agg: 28.1% | 3Bet: 9.7% | Fold to 3Bet: 22.2% | 4Bet: 9.9% | Hands: 35874]

Dealt to Hero: J♠ 9♥ A♠ 9♣

UTG Raises To $1.75, HJ Folds, CO Calls $1.75, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $7.50, BB Folds, UTG Calls $5.75, CO Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.46 effective]
Flop ($17.25): 9♠ 3♣ 7♠
HERO Bets $6.90 (Rem. Stack: $35.60), UTG Calls $6.90 (Rem. Stack: $82.20)

Turn ($31.05): 9♠ 3♣ 7♠ 3♠

HERO ?

4-Card PLO50 AJJ8ds call flop to donk-shove the turn in 3BP 3way

The first blunder I have found. 2 bdfd+ngs is too weak I guess to make such moves against 2 players...

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PL Omaha 0.50(BB)
BB ($79.30) [VPIP: 55.9% | PFR: 29.5% | AGG: 26% | Flop Agg: 23.1% | Turn Agg: 30.4% | River Agg: 31.2% | 3Bet: 6.6% | 4Bet: 7.6% | Cold Call: 55.2% | Hands: 7692]
UTG ($85.12) [VPIP: 24.2% | PFR: 16.9% | AGG: 30.1% | Flop Agg: 38.2% | Turn Agg: 30.6% | River Agg: 21.7% | 3Bet: 9% | 4Bet: 7% | Hands: 1883]
HJ ($51.64) [VPIP: 40.4% | PFR: 12.2% | AGG: 23.6% | Flop Agg: 21.3% | Turn Agg: 29.5% | River Agg: 26.2% | 3Bet: 4.5% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 35.4% | Hands: 317]
CO ($50) [VPIP: 20.2% | PFR: 14% | AGG: 28.3% | Hands: 180]
BTN ($20.47) [VPIP: 46.6% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 41.3% | Hands: 289]
HERO ($186.21) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 28.4% | Flop Agg: 30.5% | Turn Agg: 31.5% | River Agg: 27.9% | 3Bet: 9.7% | Fold to 3Bet: 22.1% | 4Bet: 9.8% | Hands: 37082]

Dealt to Hero: A♥ J♥ 8♣ J♣

UTG Raises To $1.75, HJ Calls $1.75, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $7.50, BB Calls $7, UTG Calls $5.75, HJ Calls $5.75

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.47 effective]
Flop ($30): K♣ T♦ 7♥
HERO Checks, BB Bets $22.50 (Rem. Stack: $49.30), UTG Folds, HJ Calls $22.50 (Rem. Stack: $21.64), HERO Calls $22.50 (Rem. Stack: $156.21)

Turn ($97.50): K♣ T♦ 7♥ 5♣
HERO Bets $97.50 (Rem. Stack: $58.71), BB Calls $49.30 (allin), HJ Calls $21.64 (allin)

River ($265.94): K♣ T♦ 7♥ 5♣ 9♥

After this hand I have seen him tilting hard for the first time, he spew off 5 stacks that session afterwards against me and then regained 2 stacks in high variance spots. So mentally he is not unbreakable it seems. It's been the 4th day now playing multiple hours a day against him often heads-up. I am not sure if I should play HU against him but I feel like he was a new challenge and it kinda improved my way of thinking.

4-Card PLO50 AAQ3sa facing river shove with topset+straight-bl on straight board

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PL Omaha 0.50(BB)
HERO ($121.49) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 28.4% | Flop Agg: 30.5% | Turn Agg: 31.5% | River Agg: 27.9% | 3Bet: 9.7% | 4Bet: 9.8% | Hands: 37082]
BB ($86) [VPIP: 55.9% | PFR: 29.5% | AGG: 26% | Flop Agg: 23.1% | Turn Agg: 30.4% | River Agg: 31.2% | 3Bet: 6.6% | 4Bet: 7.6% | Cold Call: 55.2% | Hands: 7692]

Dealt to Hero: 3♦ A♠ Q♠ A♣

HERO Raises To $1.50, BB Calls $1

Hero SPR on Flop: [28.17 effective]
Flop ($3): K♦ A♥ J♣
BB Checks, HERO Bets $1.20 (Rem. Stack: $118.79), BB Raises To $4.95 (Rem. Stack: $79.55), HERO Calls $3.75 (Rem. Stack: $115.04)

Turn ($12.90): K♦ A♥ J♣ 8♥
BB Bets $12.90 (Rem. Stack: $66.65), HERO Calls $12.90 (Rem. Stack: $102.14)

River ($38.70): K♦ A♥ J♣ 8♥ 6♠
BB Bets $38.70 (Rem. Stack: $27.95), HERO?

All those hands are played against the same villain (if you did not notice)

OMG. multiple sessions played rn. That guy totally roasted me taking like 20 stacks from me this week. I feel like he made a lot of obvious mistake which I tried to exploit, but in the end I always ran into some ridiculously unlike combinations which solver could never fold but he always either had it or brought it in with decent equity and sucked me out. I have almost 10k hands on him so he is not on a super lucky streak but some tendencies probable and I am proabbly not aware of some serious mistake I could have made. I mean there is really no point in playing regulars if this is to be considered normal or variance. Or he was just better than me. He made some really interesting adjustment quickly after I have adjusted aswell. Like when I kept folding in BXB lines he primarily bluffed there (even in 3BP which is harder to defend), then I put more value hands countering BXB suddenly he was bringing value-bets only. His pot raises were always hard to call. When he had streaks of strong hands in certain weird lines I did not recognize I paid him off like a monkey like X/R vs delayed CBets with sets on straight turn cards, I mean nobody else does such stuff. Some mistake I made he exploited well and those were extremely costly ones, like calling a turn check-raise on a double 2toned structure and then bluffing river blank. He knew I would check-back most SDV and would reshove very strong made hands ott to protect my hand so that was my stupidity but usually people weren't capable of picking up on it, he made some really light bluffcatches in big pots. I will try to avoid him and HU, feels like I am not the best player on those stakes anymore (which is so odds since you have seen his preflop stats with VPIP 50% etc...).

Ugh.

Hey, thanx for the answer regarding that STD value - sure 300isf must be way to high, I agree - but would have been interesting to see your actual real STD form PT4 - to get a real sample ! To bad that you don't use it any more. Btw. I also have Drive hud - I haven't tried to search if there is also the similar STD there, but if you find it, let me know what you got on 5-6 handed 4c PLO 50.

Also, this is funny, this guy you labeled at "most competent" - If I recall you also played at the AUS-FIN site (me too - or I played, now I haven't palyed much at all in the last 3 mon.) But if his stats were someting like VIP 50isf and PFR maybe 30 (I don't remeber exactly - and NEVER folding to 3B) - then I think I know the guy - I've played to most hands with him from all players....it could be the same guy - My take on him is that he was pretty OK postflop - but still making some bad callas in certain spots IMO - but his biggest leak was that he had HUUGE tilt sessions like maybe ever 2-3 months where he just gambled any 4, ready to call it off PRE 100+bb stacks with.....I made some huge profit session from those a few times, but if he's playing hes normal game, I also considered him decent, compared to maney of the more str8fwd regs. But it also might be some other guy u are refering too - btw, my stats were also somethign similar to that (VIP/PFR), but as I said, I havent even been playing in the last 3 + months there so it's not me (lol)

PS: I was playing with him already like 5yrs ago - starting at pl20 - then problay we both rised to 50 and 100 eventually - not sure what he would play at the moment- but he changed his nickname semi regularly - and at some oint he was also playing pl200 (maybe even shotting/gambling at pl400 (like 1-2 yrs ago) - but I have a feeling that he never was a regular at pl200 - as he at least this year and last year often played pl20 and pl50, and even pl100 at the same time sometimes. Just a classic guy when you get a lot of history with one player....good memories and not so good, as it is with PLO. Damn- I'd like to get back to playing a bit again. but at the moment I woudl not be comfortabl rolled for pl50 - and I find it hard to motivate myself to re-grind from pl20. Must see...still might be back some day

Originally posted by skeida
Hey, thanx for the answer regarding that STD value - sure 300isf must be way to high, I agree - but would have been interesting to see your actual real STD form PT4 - to get a real sample ! To bad that you don't use it any more. Btw. I also have Drive hud - I haven't tried to search if there is also the similar STD there, but if you find it, let me know what you got on 5-6 handed 4c PLO 50.

Also, this is funny, this guy you labeled at "most competent" - If I recall you also played at the AUS-FIN site (me too - or I played, now I haven't palyed much at all in the last 3 mon.) But if his stats were someting like VIP 50isf and PFR maybe 30 (I don't remeber exactly - and NEVER folding to 3B) - then I think I know the guy - I've played to most hands with him from all players....it could be the same guy - My take on him is that he was pretty OK postflop - but still making some bad callas in certain spots IMO - but his biggest leak was that he had HUUGE tilt sessions like maybe ever 2-3 months where he just gambled any 4, ready to call it off PRE 100+bb stacks with.....I made some huge profit session from those a few times, but if he's playing hes normal game, I also considered him decent, compared to maney of the more str8fwd regs. But it also might be some other guy u are refering too - btw, my stats were also somethign similar to that (VIP/PFR), but as I said, I havent even been playing in the last 3 + months there so it's not me (lol)

My standard deviation in bb/100 over ~30k hands is 139. I assume it won't change much when increasing the volume, my estimation of 140 was pretty accurate^^. If I mix in the 5-card hands played it goes up to 180 (!).

His nickname was Assax3. Man he tilted me hard but this usually means he is good. Problem also I tend to label according to preflop stats but I should have known this is a bad approach and it would haunt me sooner or later, now I take a different approach in labbeling (also taking villains handstrength/positional awareness into account, so some of those loose "bad lags" suddenly turned into most dangerous opponents). I also changed my nickname. Yeah he never folded to 3bets but his postflop stats were incredibly well balanced on all possible spots like 3bp's, delay cbet, probing, x/r, no statistical leaks at all. The only thing was not cbetting enough and overfolding on static textures like paired boards, it was only possible to recognize with help of DriveHud2 where you can seperate cbet stats according to board textures. Now This guy either moved up or vanished, very mysterical.

But there were some other finnish decent LAGs to, like Lahiomainen. Like one of them I have played a while thinking man he is just either hitting everything or playing insanely well. He left too but a friend who also plays there told me he busted in several night session so I guess it was on a runner. Maybe he was just one of those guys, cause when they are winning big, they seem to be invincible and it is hard to not go tilt on yourself in some way or another if you keep playing them over a long period of time. Other from this there are actually no players at all on my stake I perceive to be better than me, which is actually very good news in Poker^^.

If you struggle to make profits at the lower stakes like PLO20 I'd just keep playing to a very minimum and focus on improving like theory and solver studies (for solver it is actually helpful to have some hands to analyze). Cause with an aggressive BRM it is actually possible to move up quickly and on lower stakes you actually do not risk a lot of money so if you go bust it's not the end of the world (like burning 30 buyin for plo20 is not ending your career but if you spoil millions like gus hansen it would destroy you).

Maybe try out this one:

It's just 65 buyins so you might do it within a few months instead of a whole years' grind. There was a blog about Blitz-BRM on Pokerstrategy, I have accounted the higher variance in PLO with higher starting rolls and higher move-up requirement, I'd estimate you would save more than 50% of you volume since you'lld be playing on higher stakes more often but you'd need to move up and down a lot and should not go on tilt easily. If you finish the first table you cashout 300 bucks to grab yourself some food ... then continue in the second scheme. You should make sure that you are at least winning decently at PLO20 over bigger sample (have a solid foundation you can rely your self-esteem on when times are rough), the rest you learn on your way and on a regular basis. If you think you can beat your field at all lower stakes you'd have a 50-buyin bankroll quite fast to play PLO100 which is enough monthly profits do grind for a living even in Austria. But don't quit your job before having a nice sample lol.

I hope you will be back soon and we can keep discussing strategy together! GL!

Some highlights from yesterdays' session:

Hand 1

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.20(BB)
HJ ($54.40) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Hands: 3413]
CO ($17.46) [VPIP: 24.4% | PFR: 12.7% | AGG: 22.8% | Hands: 2948]
BTN ($21.12) [VPIP: 65.6% | PFR: 23.9% | AGG: 29.9% | Flop Agg: 34.7% | Turn Agg: 23.3% | River Agg: 37.8% | 3Bet: 9.9% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 53.7% | Hands: 164]
SB ($22.55) [VPIP: 83.3% | PFR: 14% | AGG: 28.4% | Flop Agg: 21.8% | Turn Agg: 36.3% | River Agg: 30.6% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 82.1% | Hands: 227]
BB ($20) [VPIP: 60.2% | PFR: 39.8% | AGG: 15.8% | Flop Agg: 20.9% | Turn Agg: 10.3% | River Agg: 15.8% | 3Bet: 31.4% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 83]
HERO ($20) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]

Dealt to Hero: 6♣ K♦ K♥ A:c 7♦

HERO Raises To $0.70, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Calls $0.70, SB Calls $0.60, BB Raises To $3.50, HERO Calls $2.80, BTN Calls $2.80, SB Calls $2.80

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.18 effective]
Flop ($14): 7:c 5♠ 6:d
SB Checks, BB Checks, HERO Checks, BTN Bets $14 (Rem. Stack: $3.62), SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Raises To $16.50 (allin), BTN Calls $2.50 (Rem. Stack: $1.12)

Turn ($47): 7:c 5♠ 6♦ 9♥

River ($47): 7:c 5♠ 6♦ 9♥ 3♠

Hand 2

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
BB ($77.52) [VPIP: 43% | PFR: 21.8% | AGG: 26% | Hands: 768]
HERO ($95.98) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]
BTN ($10.63) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Flop Agg: 22.2% | Turn Agg: 22.7% | River Agg: 18.7% | 3Bet: 11.2% | Fold to 3Bet: 16.4% | 4Bet: 6.3% | Hands: 3413]
SB ($15.20) [VPIP: 34.8% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 32.6% | Hands: 379]

Dealt to Hero: 5♦ 9:c 4♠ 6♦ 7♠

HERO Raises To $0.35, BTN Raises To $1.20, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.85

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.7 effective]
Flop ($2.55): 3:c 2♠ 9♥
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $2.55 (Rem. Stack: $6.88), HERO Raises To $10.20 (Rem. Stack: $84.58), BTN Calls $6.88 (allin)

Turn ($22.18): 3:c 2♠ 9♥ 7♥

River ($22.18): 3:c 2♠ 9♥ 7♥ 8♥

Hand 3

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
SB ($10) [VPIP: 40.1% | PFR: 32.8% | AGG: 36.5% | Flop Agg: 54.1% | Turn Agg: 45.2% | River Agg: 40.6% | 3Bet: 29% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 40% | Hands: 195]
BB ($63.19) [VPIP: 43% | PFR: 21.8% | AGG: 26% | Hands: 768]
HERO ($42.11) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]
CO ($24.09) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Hands: 3413]
BTN ($102.65) [VPIP: 90.4% | PFR: 8.4% | AGG: 15.5% | Flop Agg: 21.4% | Turn Agg: 22.2% | River Agg: 6.5% | 3Bet: 12% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 81.8% | Hands: 84]

Dealt to Hero: 7♦ 9:c 9♠ 8:c 7:c

HERO Raises To $0.35, CO Folds, BTN Calls $0.35, SB Raises To $1.50, BB Folds, HERO Calls $1.15, BTN Calls $1.15

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.85 effective]
Flop ($4.60): 4♠ 2:c 7♥
SB Bets $4.60 (Rem. Stack: $3.90), HERO Calls $4.60 (Rem. Stack: $36.01), BTN Raises To $23 (Rem. Stack: $78.15), SB Calls $3.90 (allin), HERO Raises To $40.61 (allin), BTN Calls $17.61 (Rem. Stack: $60.54)

Turn ($94.32): 4♠ 2:c 7♥ 6♠

River ($94.32): 4♠ 2:c 7♥ 6♠ 7♠

Hand 4

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
HJ ($10) [VPIP: 40.1% | PFR: 32.8% | AGG: 36.5% | Flop Agg: 54.1% | Turn Agg: 45.2% | River Agg: 40.6% | 3Bet: 29% | 4Bet: 40% | Fold to 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 195]
CO ($53.45) [VPIP: 43% | PFR: 21.8% | AGG: 26% | Hands: 768]
HERO ($31.50) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Hands: 6293]
SB ($24.14) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Hands: 3413]
BB ($104.20) [VPIP: 90.4% | PFR: 8.4% | AGG: 15.5% | Hands: 84]

Dealt to Hero: A♥ J♠ A♠ 3:c J♦

HJ Raises To $0.35, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $1.20, SB Folds, BB Calls $1.10, HJ Raises To $4.85, HERO Raises To $15.80, BB Folds, HJ Calls $5.15 (allin)

Flop ($27.05): 4♠ 2♥ 2:d

Turn ($27.05): 4♠ 2♥ 2:d 6:d

River ($27.05): 4♠ 2♥ 2:d 6:d T:d

Hand 5

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
SB ($19.64) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Hands: 3413]
BB ($9.23) [VPIP: 77.2% | PFR: 31.7% | AGG: 21.5% | Flop Agg: 30.4% | Turn Agg: 27.4% | River Agg: 11.9% | 3Bet: 9.5% | 4Bet: 27.3% | Cold Call: 67.3% | Hands: 148]
HERO ($14.12) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]

Dealt to Hero: J♣ J♥ K♥ 9♥ 7:c

HERO Raises To $0.35, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [11.84 effective]
Flop ($0.75): 4♠ T♠ 8:c
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.60 (Rem. Stack: $13.17), BB Raises To $2.55 (Rem. Stack: $6.33), HERO Calls $1.95 (Rem. Stack: $11.22)

Turn ($5.85): 4♠ T♠ 8:c J:d
BB Bets $5.85 (Rem. Stack: $0.48), HERO Raises To $11.22 (allin), BB Calls $0.48 (allin)

River ($23.40): 4♠ T♠ 8:c J:d 4♥

Hand 6

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
CO ($26.96) [VPIP: 40.1% | PFR: 32.8% | AGG: 36.5% | Hands: 195]
BTN ($3.55) [VPIP: 43% | PFR: 21.8% | AGG: 26% | Flop Agg: 27.7% | Turn Agg: 30.2% | River Agg: 21.6% | 3Bet: 2.8% | 4Bet: 5.1% | Cold Call: 37.2% | Hands: 768]
HERO ($10) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | Fold to 3Bet: 23.9% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]
BB ($10) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Flop Agg: 22.2% | Turn Agg: 22.7% | River Agg: 18.7% | 3Bet: 11.2% | 4Bet: 6.3% | Cold Call: 36.9% | Hands: 3413]
UTG ($10) [VPIP: 32.2% | PFR: 6.8% | AGG: 34.2% | Hands: 59]
HJ ($76.10) [VPIP: 90.4% | PFR: 8.4% | AGG: 15.5% | Hands: 84]

Dealt to Hero: Q:c Q♦ T♠ A♠ J:d

UTG Folds, HJ Calls $0.10, CO Raises To $0.45, BTN Calls $0.45, HERO Raises To $2, BB Calls $1.90, HJ Calls $1.90, CO Calls $1.55, BTN Raises To $3.55 (allin), HERO Raises To $10 (allin), BB Calls $8 (allin), HJ Folds, CO Calls $8

Flop ($35.55): 8♥ 7:d T:d

Turn ($35.55): 8♥ 7:d T:d 5♠

River ($35.55): 8♥ 7:d T:d 5♠ A:d

Hand 7

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
HJ ($10) [VPIP: 40.1% | PFR: 32.8% | AGG: 36.5% | Flop Agg: 54.1% | Turn Agg: 45.2% | River Agg: 40.6% | 3Bet: 29% | 4Bet: 40% | Hands: 195]
CO ($14.10) [VPIP: 43% | PFR: 21.8% | AGG: 26% | Hands: 768]
HERO ($10) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | Fold to 3Bet: 23.9% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]
SB ($10) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Hands: 3413]
BB ($10.86) [VPIP: 32.2% | PFR: 6.8% | AGG: 34.2% | Hands: 59]
UTG ($46.66) [VPIP: 90.4% | PFR: 8.4% | AGG: 15.5% | Flop Agg: 21.4% | Turn Agg: 22.2% | River Agg: 6.5% | 3Bet: 12% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 84]

Dealt to Hero: A:d 8♥ Q♥ Q♠ T♠

UTG Calls $0.10, HJ Raises To $0.45, CO Calls $0.45, HERO Raises To $2.05, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Calls $1.95, HJ Calls $1.60, CO Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.18 effective]
Flop ($6.75): 6♠ 7:d 7♠
UTG Bets $6.75 (Rem. Stack: $37.86), HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $7.95 (allin), UTG Calls $1.20 (Rem. Stack: $36.66)

Turn ($22.65): 6♠ 7:d 7♠ 7♥

River ($22.65): 6♠ 7:d 7♠ 7♥ T:c

Hand 8

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
HERO ($14.61) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]
BTN ($15.09) [VPIP: 84.4% | PFR: 21.9% | AGG: 14.1% | Flop Agg: 3.8% | Turn Agg: 25% | River Agg: 25% | 3Bet: 17.6% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 32]
SB ($2.76) [VPIP: 64% | PFR: 40% | AGG: 32.1% | Hands: 25]
BB ($6.77) [VPIP: 40.1% | PFR: 1.4% | AGG: 25.9% | Hands: 142]
HJ ($12.46) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Hands: 3413]

Dealt to Hero: Q♠ K♥ 7:d 7♥ T:d

HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.35, BTN Raises To $1.20, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.85

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.26 effective]
Flop ($2.55): 3♠ Q:c T♥
HERO Bets $2.55 (Rem. Stack: $10.86), BTN Calls $2.55 (Rem. Stack: $11.34)

Turn ($7.65): 3♠ Q:c T♥ J:d
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $3.82 (Rem. Stack: $7.52), HERO Calls $3.82 (Rem. Stack: $7.04)

River ($15.29): 3♠ Q:c T♥ J:d 8♥
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $7.52 (allin), HERO Calls $7.04 (allin)

Hand 9

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.10(BB)
CO ($10.42) [VPIP: 40.1% | PFR: 32.8% | AGG: 36.5% | Flop Agg: 54.1% | Turn Agg: 45.2% | River Agg: 40.6% | 3Bet: 29% | 4Bet: 40% | Cold Call: 17.1% | Hands: 195]
BTN ($10) [VPIP: 47% | PFR: 29% | AGG: 20.1% | Flop Agg: 22.2% | Turn Agg: 22.7% | River Agg: 18.7% | 3Bet: 11.2% | 4Bet: 6.3% | Cold Call: 36.9% | Hands: 3413]
SB ($8.02) [VPIP: 66.1% | PFR: 15% | AGG: 33.1% | Flop Agg: 35.6% | Turn Agg: 31.8% | River Agg: 54.2% | 3Bet: 8% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 56.1% | Hands: 128]
BB ($32.94) [VPIP: 70.5% | PFR: 4.5% | AGG: 15.9% | Flop Agg: 16.9% | Turn Agg: 15.6% | River Agg: 18.8% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 66.7% | Hands: 88]
HERO ($10) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Hands: 6293]
HJ ($26.84) [VPIP: 76.2% | PFR: 14.5% | AGG: 25.8% | Flop Agg: 25.3% | Turn Agg: 32.6% | River Agg: 21.2% | 3Bet: 5.6% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 61.8% | Hands: 200]

Dealt to Hero: 9♠ J:d T♥ 7♥ A:d

HERO Raises To $0.35, HJ Calls $0.35, CO Calls $0.35, BTN Calls $0.35, SB Calls $0.30, BB Calls $0.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.65 effective]
Flop ($2.10): K♥ 6:d 7♠
SB Bets $2.10 (Rem. Stack: $5.57), BB Folds, HERO Calls $2.10 (Rem. Stack: $7.55), HJ Folds, CO Raises To $4.20 (Rem. Stack: $5.87), BTN Folds, SB Calls $2.10 (Rem. Stack: $3.47), HERO Calls $2.10 (Rem. Stack: $7.55)

Turn ($14.70): K♥ 6:d 7♠ 9:c
SB Checks, HERO Bets $5.45 (allin), CO Raises To $5.87 (allin), SB Calls $3.47 (allin)

River ($29.49): K♥ 6:d 7♠ 9:c 8:c

Hand 10

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.20(BB)
CO ($16.64) [VPIP: 56.3% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 13.2% | Flop Agg: 8.6% | Turn Agg: 15.9% | River Agg: 23.5% | 3Bet: 4.5% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 49.6% | Hands: 225]
BTN ($31.96) [VPIP: 57.8% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 21.9% | Hands: 351]
SB ($20) [VPIP: 30.6% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 36.4% | Hands: 36]
HERO ($20) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 27.1% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 28.4% | River Agg: 25.3% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 14.5% | Cold Call: 14.3% | Hands: 6293]
UTG ($8.95) [VPIP: 55.2% | PFR: 29.9% | AGG: 23.2% | Flop Agg: 25% | Turn Agg: 35.3% | River Agg: 14.3% | 3Bet: 14.8% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 68]
HJ ($39.81) [VPIP: 28.5% | PFR: 14.5% | AGG: 35.7% | Hands: 743]

Dealt to Hero: 4:d 9:d J:c 4♥ J♠

UTG Raises To $0.70, HJ Folds, CO Calls $0.70, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls $0.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.75 effective]
Flop ($2.20): A♥ J♥ A:c
HERO Checks, UTG Bets $2.20 (Rem. Stack: $6.05), CO Folds, HERO Raises To $8.80 (Rem. Stack: $10.50), UTG Calls $6.05 (allin)

Turn ($19.25): A♥ J♥ A:c K♠

River ($19.25): A♥ J♥ A:c K♠ Q:c

I recently switched my nickname as mentioned previously so I make a quick cash check and snapshot of my results since my last report on the BR-Challenge.

I basically played everything up to PLO50. Since adding 5-Card tables and losing big in August I want to be more cautious with the stakes I play and test out my self-developed BR-schemes. They could work fine up to PLO600and save massive time for midstakes (have not been that far yet though), there are some PLO1k tables but no traffic. My total bankroll is around 18k now but I am not going to play 4-Card PLO200 before I reach the 100 buyin anyways, I have been doing some PLO100 on my HM3 database but was quite unlucky on 4-Card (so I'd rather try to transition to PLO100 and add 5-Card PLO100 later on aswell.)

35k hands since August

Micros have high winrates but low profits

Very interesting your STD....I don't understand how the hell mine was something like 300 (I must check it again to be sure)...it feels so weird - I mean I have probably suffered SO much in vain due to it (my high VIP probably the main reason I would assume).

That nickname "Assax3" doesn't sound like a nick that guy I've played with would use (that Lahiomainen sound more like something he would use lol)...so not sure about the guy - but if I recall correctly - he also wasn't that CB happy...so you never know. Anyways - I still felt he was kinda a "fish" but his leaks were more like discipline leaks (maybe probably my own big leaks too- VIP 50ish) - but he certainly could play well too - So I agree that Do not make the mistake of labeling a player based on his VIP/PRE alone - I mean you would certainly have labeled me as a fish too lol - and I could imagine that at some point I might have won the most at PL50 at those tables between 2020-2023 maybe - at least when I put in more volume at that site (Veikkaus in FIN (I'm finnish)) - So VIP can certainly be missleading - but I would say that if someone has VIP 50 with a PFR under 20- then It starts to feel more like a real recreational - However- VIP 50% is a huge leak in ring games, I mean it MUST BE, not mater how you play I fell....and I always hated myself that WHY could I not manage to get it down...the discipline is key.
I also have played a lot of 5c - and YES the games are usually good, but at some point - you will hit an absolute SHIT run in that game and then you start questioning that is it worth the added variance - I would say that it's FINE, if you really are rolled for it (I'd probably would like to have 200bins for it. but I was always a hug bankroll nit, which was also a mistake (I had over 30k at some point, and I dint even really play pl200 ever....which was a huge mistake in hindsight) - I will check out your BR system - now with experience of to nitty BRM, I see the value of being able to use agressive BRM, especially at lower stakes.

Woot, didn't know Mas was playing in that AUS-FIN honeypot too!

You had the option to change your nickname once a year I think. That might explain why it doesn't sound familiar to Skeida.

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Woot, didn't know Mas was playing in that AUS-FIN honeypot too!

You had the option to change your nickname once a year I think. That might explain why it doesn't sound familiar to Skeida.

Maybe. You also play there? Now you know how I get those winrates ... I am having lots of flaws in my game still, it's just a very hard game to learn but the fish help me to feddar the worst lol.

The best thing about that site is, it does not get much tougher on PLO100 and above. Unfortunately I have been losing there only so far

In 5-card Equities run even more close. How close? Sometimes more close than you think.

iPoker, 5 Card Omaha Pot Limit - €0.05/€0.10 - 3 players
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BU: €37.11 (371 bb)
SB (Hero): €22.69 (227 bb)
BB: €4.00 (40 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.15) Hero is SB with 8♦ K♥ T♠ A♠ J♥
BTN raises to €0.35, Hero 3-bets to €1.15, BB calls €1.05, BTN 4-bets to €4.59, Hero 5-bets to €14.92, BB calls €2.85 (all-in), BTN 6-bets to €37.11 (all-in), Hero calls €7.77 (all-in)

Flop: (€49.38) K♣ 6♥ 9♣ (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (€49.38) 8♠ (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (€49.38) 3♣ (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: €49.38 (Rake: €1)

Showdown:
BU shows 6♦ 4♣ A♣ 8♣ A♥ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 30%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) shows 8♦ K♥ T♠ A♠ J♥ (two pair, Kings and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 41%, Turn: 64%, River: 0%)

BB shows 5♥ T♥ 6♠ Q♣ 2♣ (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 25%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 6%, River: 0%)

BU wins €48.38

BTN was openraising loose and had 20% 3bet (but probably still 4-betting AAxx only, one has to be careful here). In the end I was flipping against his AAxx with AKJT8 pure ds and dominating the 3way stack-off. Ingame I thought I must have been close but actually I have been pretty nice favorit (!). I guess it's because my nice components (pure double-suit, decent connectivity ind the mid-high range whereas his AAxx were triple-suited and had bad connectivity).

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.50(BB)
HERO ($64.94) [VPIP: 25.9% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 25.5% | Flop Agg: 26.6% | Turn Agg: 29.4% | River Agg: 28.8% | 3Bet: 7% | 4Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 3465]
CO ($79.20) [VPIP: 31.2% | PFR: 19.3% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 455]
BTN ($50) [VPIP: 26.2% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 36% | Hands: 141]
SB ($19.50) [VPIP: 48.9% | PFR: 26.7% | AGG: 16.4% | Hands: 45]
BB ($112.98) [VPIP: 58.6% | PFR: 26.9% | AGG: 23.1% | Flop Agg: 18.7% | Turn Agg: 28.1% | River Agg: 30.5% | 3Bet: 7.7% | 4Bet: 3.8% | Cold Call: 61.5% | Hands: 688]

Dealt to Hero: 8♠ 7♦ Q♦ 4♣ A♣

HERO Raises To $1.75, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $1.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [16.85 effective]
Flop ($3.75): A♦ T♥ 5♠
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($3.75): A♦ T♥ 5♠ 8♥
BB Checks, HERO Bets $3.75 (Rem. Stack: $59.44), BB Calls $3.75 (Rem. Stack: $107.48)

River ($11.25): A♦ T♥ 5♠ 8♥ 2♠
BB Checks, HERO Bets $8.43 (Rem. Stack: $51.01), BB Raises To $33.86 (Rem. Stack: $73.62), HERO Calls $25.43 (Rem. Stack: $25.58)

I am back in the zone after having some struggles in February/March. With my gameplan taking form now on several flop textures, I have put more weight on postflop play and trying to read individual ranges. I feel like this works pretty well. Some really sick calldowns I made recently:

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

PL 5 Card Omaha 0.50(BB)
HERO ($129.23) [VPIP: 28.5% | PFR: 21.6% | AGG: 32.4% | Flop Agg: 36.9% | Turn Agg: 34.2% | River Agg: 33% | 3Bet: 12% | Fold to 3Bet: 15.4% | 4Bet: 14.3% | Hands: 17740]
SB ($99.11) [VPIP: 28.9% | PFR: 15.8% | AGG: 24.7% | Hands: 637]
BB ($80.55) [VPIP: 30.4% | PFR: 17.5% | AGG: 30.7% | Hands: 684]
UTG ($73.14) [VPIP: 82.9% | PFR: 50% | AGG: 16.6% | Flop Agg: 17.6% | Turn Agg: 19.1% | River Agg: 24.2% | 3Bet: 33.7% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Fold to 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 230]
HJ ($380.90) [VPIP: 56.6% | PFR: 0.9% | AGG: 10.4% | Hands: 106]
CO ($173.27) [VPIP: 28.5% | PFR: 20.8% | AGG: 30.5% | Hands: 1477]

Dealt to Hero: 6♥ J♥ K♠ A♦ 3♦

UTG Raises To $1.75, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $6, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Raises To $18.75, HERO Calls $12.75

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.42 effective]
Flop ($38.25): 9♥ 5♦ 3♠
UTG Bets $38.25 (Rem. Stack: $16.14), HERO Calls $38.25 (Rem. Stack: $72.23)

Turn ($114.75): 9♥ 5♦ 3♠ 2♠
UTG Bets $16.14 (allin), HERO Calls $16.14 (Rem. Stack: $56.09)

River ($147.03): 9♥ 5♦ 3♠ 2♠ 2♥

I played roughly 170k hands this year being above 15bb/100 which is pretty nice. This month surely it's an upswing, but almost half the year is over so I hope I can make a good year one time.

What's up? How is the challenge going?