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Originally posted by Harrier88
I hope you guys are still reading. I will keep things going while Primrose is on her well-deserved vacation, though I will only have burgers and maybe some other cooking to offer during this time, also the Trollwatch series on Sundays where I will keep you updated on my progress throughout my new lifeguard training, which is another challenge I'm currently on.

We have plans for a new cooking and a new sports series in October, and also finally some poker challenges again. I am aware that we had plenty of Troll Challenges, but not a lot of Primrose vs Harrier here recently. It is high time to fix that.

Troll Trivia of the Week

Did you know that Harrier briefly took up equestrians during his university days? What was the name of his noble steed?

1) Riccardo
2) Lantano
3) Bavieca

3 sounds a good name. It was the name of the horse of El Cid Campeador.


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Primrose6789
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU HARRIER!

Have a wonderful Birthday, my friend!

See you soon live! :f_thumbsup:


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Harrier88
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Originally posted by Harrier88
Troll Trivia of the Week

Did you know that Harrier briefly took up equestrians during his university days? What was the name of his noble steed?

1) Riccardo
2) Lantano
3) Bavieca

Solution:

Spoiler

2) Lantano

SDK is right, Bavieca was indeed the horse of Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar, better known as El Cid Campeador. And Riccardo is the name of the chairman of my tennis club, whom I had almost called Lantano a few times before, not that he reminded me of my horse in any way. :f_biggrin:

Lantano was... a brown horse. You know this stereotype of when women are asked to describe a car and they can only say what color it is, not the make and model etc? I'm kind of like that when it comes to horses... and admittedly, when it comes to cars too. :f_ugly: Either way, I can unfortunately not say what kind of breed he was, but he was quite well-behaved and therefore beginner-friendly, which is why he was assigned to me when i gave equestrians a try.

That's the interesting thing about equestrians compared to other sports, that your team partner whose performance is at least as important as your own is a live animal, with its own personality. And just like with humans, not everyone is equally easy to get along with. It also means that this team partner of yours requires a load of "maintenance", you can't just expect them to show up to your competition well-rested, well-fed and ready to perform like with your soccer teammates. Well, to be fair, you can't really expect it of those guys either... :f_ugly:

For that reason, a big part of my first horseback riding lesson was spent taking care of Lantano. We groomed him, of course, cleaned his hooves, I think he was fed... but it all started when I was asked to get him out of his stable. Not having dealt with horses before, the best I could do was to awkwardly stay in the entrance and call out "Yo... Lantano?". My instructor quickly pointed out that he won't understand that, and helped me do it the right way. I was supposed to approach Lantano from the side, carefully put his headcollar around him, and then gently lead him outside using the rope that is attached to the gear.

I remember that while we were grooming Lantano, a pony named Polly was sleeping on a stack of hay in the stable next to us, and woke up while we were still busy, after which she simply started eating the hay she was sleeping on. Imagine you could eat your own bed after waking up in the morning... Some people consider being served breakfast in bed the ultimate luxury. For some horses, their bed is their breakfast.

Even with all that modern equipment, getting our horse ready felt like quite a challenge - I can only imagine how all of this went in ancient times, especially with less well-behaved or possibly even wild horses. Besides, I wasn't wrong about being cautious either. Being a prey animal, horses are not aggressive, but they know how to deal a good (and possibly lethal) kick when they feel cornered and take flight. Some horses can pack up to 2,000 psi in their kicks - compare that to Ivan Drago from Rocky IV:

During the actual riding part of the lesson, we were only going around in circles, but that too felt like an adventure. I have asked people who have both been on a horse and on a motorcycle, and they could confirm that even when going at the same speed, it feels like you are going much faster on a horse.

It was fun, but unfortunately, I had overdone it with my sports schedule a little during that time, and email communications with my instructor were not easy either, so I eventually had to informally drop out. It was still a fascinating experience, and I'm glad I did it. :f_grin:


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Little bit to late, but hopefully you had a nice birthday Harrier88 _wink:


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First lesson at the Westbad in Gießen, right here:

Also, we did our first practical exams. This lifeguard course is essentially done "Trollympics-style", with a bunch of short tests over the course of several weeks, rather than one big exam that you either fail or pass, like with the standard swimming badges. That's good, I suppose, because it means less pressure in the individual tests, and also more opportunities to redo them if things are not working out yet. There will still be one big all-or-nothing theoretical exam at the end, though.

Today, we did our deep diving, which we practiced last week in much deeper waters. Around 2.50 meters today (if even that deep) were doable, though our instructor got a bit excited when he first threw that 5 kg ring in the pool, I guess. When he was looking for his first volunteer, I said that I would do - if he can tell me where the ring has gone. He had to admit that it was really hard to see now, but one of his assistants went and dived for it to bring it closer to us.

So that one wasn't a problem. Before that, we did some swimming in clothing. Did you ever swim with your clothes on? I didn't, until today. Finding the right pants was a bit of a hassle. The XL pants were a bit baggy, but I didn't want to spend too much time looking for better ones, and the shirt had a few buttons missing, which also didn't help with the hydrodynamics, or whatever they are called.

Anyway, we did our test straight away: 100 meters of swimming with clothes on in less than 4 minutes, then swimming back a few meters into the deep part of the pool (to the "arena" flags seen in the pic above), and unclothing yourself in the water. It feels a bit weird with those clothes, and it is definitely more exhausting - especially with those baggy ones. I was asking my instructor along the way if the unclothing part had already begun with me, because it felt like those pants were dangling around my feet. It wasn't quite that bad, though, as I found out when I arrived.

Unclothing in the water wasn't as easy as you might think. You need to keep flailing around to stay afloat, while still somehow removing those pants while your legs are still moving. The shirt was a little easier. It wasn't all that comfortable, but it wasn't supposed to be. The test was passed, in any case.

Not sure what awaits me next Sunday at the Westbad. There is still plenty to do until we are certified Bronze level lifeguards.


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Since the tests are done one after another over the course of a couple of months, we can start ticking them right here:

Theoretical part

[ ] Passing a nationally standardized quiz about the following subjects: Respiration and blood circulation, hazards in and around water, assistance in case of bathing-, boating-, and ice-related accidents, avoiding strangleholds, assistance in case of injuries and drowning as well as heat exhaustion and cold injuries, and the tasks and activities of the DLRG.

Practical part

[ ] Swimming 200 meters in less than 10 minutes, including 100 meters of leg whip kick back swimming without using the arms

[DONE] Swimming 100 meters in full clothing in less than 4 minutes, with subsequent unclothing inside the water

[ ] Performing three different jumps from a height of 1 meter

[ ] 15 meters of distance diving

[ ] 50 meters of transport swimming - pushing or pulling

[DONE] Diving from the surface of the water twice - once heads first and once feet first - retrieving two 5 kg diving rings from the bottom of a 2-3 meters deep pool within 3 minutes

[practised] Displaying abilities to avoid strangleholds and escaping neck chokeholds from behind

[ ] 50 meters of transport swimming with an embracing technique (for people who may try to resist the rescuing)

[ ] Demonstrating the ability to bring people ashore

[ ] Displaying the ability to perform CPR (Cardiopulmonary resuscitation) for 3 minutes

[ ] A combined exercise involving the following steps without any breaks in this order: A 20 meter swimming approach, diving to retrieve a 5 kg diving ring halfway through, then dropping the ring and continuing the approach, followed by carrying a partner for 20 meters

What will be next? Timed swimming? Distance diving? Transport swimming? Diving jumps? We will see... but the Trolls stay ready for everything.


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Oh, I forgot to post a new Troll Trivia question yesterday. I guess it's really about time I get my vacation... Well, only one more week now. :f_grin:

Here is the new Troll Trivia for this week, in any case:

Troll Trivia of the Week

In 1999, When Harrier was in fourth grade, his teacher added a PC running Windows 3.11 to the classroom. However, no additional software was installed, because...

1) That piece of crap wouldn't run it
2) It was considered too much of a distraction for the students
3) The discussion about which software to use got too loud


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Troll of the Day

Speaking about needing a vacation... I've had quite a day at work. And I have often considered whoever is in charge of ordering our goods as a Troll of the Day candidate, because I often find myself having to figure out how to stuff obscene amounts of new car parts into our shelves, even though there are still plenty of identical items left.

Today, I had to handle many of those, where you have to clear entire shelf boards in order to make room, only find out that you have to handle a similar amount of the items you just put somewhere else in order to make that room. Then came the adhesive weights...

They come in surprisingly heavy packages of 100 units each, and I previously put a residual amount of 2,198 of those little weights away in order to make room for something else. Then came the rest of my order... 4,000 more of them, so 40 packages of 100. I put them in the same place, even though the shelf board wasn't in the best condition, but that's just how some of them are. As I kept putting them on, I noticed that the board was bending a little, but once again, it just happens some time, no big deal.

Then I put the final one of those boxes on... and that steel board suddenly starts giving way like a piece of butter. My first instinct was to try and hold it up again, but then my other instincts kicked in, urging me to get my four frail squirrel paws away super fast - the board was collapsing under its weight with a huge crash, dropped down and hit another board, which also collapsed. And all those 6,198 adhesive weights, as well as all other items on those boards, were scattered all over the floor.

I already felt a bit frustrated by that order at that point, and I was also feeling a little stressed in general, so the first thing I did was just leaning against the other shelf and staring into the distance. A co-worker came to see what the noise was about, and I pointed at the mess on the floor. Then I gave what was left of the shelf a little roundhouse kick and just cowered on the ground in despair.

Yes, as unpleasant as this was, it wasn't as big a deal as it may have appeared at first glance. That shelf was in dire need of replacing anyway, and I just went and gathered those adhesive Troll weights, and also put the other items that fell victim to the crash somewhere else.

As I was gathering those weights, it became clear why this was a problem: They come in strips of 12 as seen above, with each weight weighing 5 grams, so one strip is 60 grams. A package contains 100 of those strips, so each of them weighs 6 kg. And I was about to put 40 of those packages on that old beat-up shelf, for a total of 240 kg... plus the 2.198 extra weights from the residual amount, for another 131.88 kg. This makes 371.88 kg in total, which is about four Harriers, and that doesn't even include the other items that were also on the shelf.

If I had known about those exact numbers before, maybe I would have thought twice about trying to put them all there. Based on the information I had, though, those were just some slightly heavy packages. And after being such a massive troll to me at work, those adhesive weights are my Trolls of the Day.


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I wonder if those parts are ordered on a schedule that was devised at a time when turnover was higher.
We ran into a similar thing at the newspaper as circulation (and page count) both began dropping.

Contracts had to be renegotiated, so the the paper mill would make less, but until that took effect, we began to run out of room to store the paper. Think of toilet paper rolls weighing 2200kg each


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I wonder if those parts are ordered on a schedule that was devised at a time when turnover was higher.
We ran into a similar thing at the newspaper as circulation (and page count) both began dropping.

Contracts had to be renegotiated, so the the paper mill would make less, but until that took effect, we began to run out of room to store the paper. Think of toilet paper rolls weighing 2200kg each

Reminds me of that old trick question with 1 kg of bricks vs 1 kg of feathers. Though in this case, it really would be a massive roll, I imagine.

From what I have heard, our company is still making a nice profit, and admittedly, I'm not familiar with anything that goes on beyond my shelves (or what's left of them), maybe all those orders make perfect economic sense. It still makes it frustrating for me as a humble worker to be stuck having to figure out ways all the time to stuff all those goods into what little space we have time.

Don't get me wrong, I like that job very much, but I've been feeling a little burned out lately. I'm sure things will look better after my vacation, I just need to make it through the rest of the week in one piece.


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It's finally vacation time for Harrier, and we are going to start it off with a little culinary trip.

The South Africa burgers were a bit disappointing, but I found some ideas for a Namibian version on the website where I looked up the chakalaka recipe. We will start with a Namibian Kapana spice blend to season our patties with. Ingredients include garlic powder, onion powder, ground coriander, paprika, thyme, ground mustard, cumin, brown sugar and ginger powder.

For our veggies, we will use a sort of spinach stew, with tomatoes, onions and garlic, loosely adapted from an Ombidi recipe on the same website.

Lastly, we will prepare some mielie pap, which is essentially a sort of maize porridge. You simply cook some maize meal with a bit of salt in a pot of water.

Not sure if it is supposed to turn out that thick. It looked different on the website.

To build our burger, we simply add some of that spinach stew to our seasoned beef patty...

...add some of that porridge...

...and our Namibia-inspired burger is ready.

Not bad! I liked the spices, and the other ingredients didn't drown out the flavor too much. My only criticism would be that it was a little dry, I was hoping that the mielie pap had a bit more of a sauce-like consistency. Still, pretty good.

Primrose disagrees... Not sure what exactly it is, I guess it's just the overall combo. It was some creative cooking for sure. :f_grin:

Ranking... I guess it will go just above Arabia.

1st Switzerland
2nd Cyprus
3rd Israel
4th Greece
5th Mongolia
6th China
7th Denmark
8th Korea
9th Spain
10th Germany
11th Russia
12th Madagascar
13th Alsace
14th Italy
15th Texas
16th California
17th Mexico
18th Morocco
19th Brazil
20th Namibia
21st Arabia
22nd Turkey
23rd Australia
24th England
25th France
26th Colombia
27th Cuba
28th Canada
29th Hungary
30th The Netherlands
31st South Africa


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Looks interesting.
I wouldn't mind giving it a try


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Looks interesting.
I wouldn't mind giving it a try

Of course not, Vorpal! As we all know, you´re a BANHAUSER, too! :f_thumbsup::f_biggrin::f_ugly:


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Welcome back, Primrose! :f_love:

I guess we will have a lot to get to soon, but for now, let's solve this week's Troll Trivia, even though we had no guesses.

Originally posted by Harrier88
Troll Trivia of the Week

In 1999, When Harrier was in fourth grade, his teacher added a PC running Windows 3.11 to the classroom. However, no additional software was installed, because...

1) That piece of crap wouldn't run it
2) It was considered too much of a distraction for the students
3) The discussion about which software to use got too loud

Solution:

Spoiler

3) The discussion about which software to use got too loud

Windows 3.11 was considered ancient even by that time already, and unfortunately, our classroom PC remained a "Solitaire machine" for the most part (Freecell wasn't included until Win95, and Hearts and Minesweeper never really caught on in my class) - except for some attempts at messing around in MS Paint. The reason is simply because my teacher cut the discussion about what else to install short.

Mr Keller was my main teacher all throughout grade school, and while everyone has their flaws, including him, I think he was about as good as you can realistically expect a teacher to be. He explained things well, making the children develop a fascination for the subjects he taught rather than turning them off from it, he always had an open ear for his students and their problems, he was very protective (I remember him busting out judo moves to fight off older kids who were bullying some of my classmates on a trip), very empathetic, and yet strict whenever he needed to be - but sometimes also when it really wasn't necessary.

One situation I remember very well was in 1st grade, just a few weeks or months in, I believe, it was probably early Fall. We took a short trip to the nearby park, and as some kids started getting a little loud in their excitement, he threatened to simply call off the trip and go back to school. I had heard similar things very often from my kindergarten teachers before that, and sometimes from my parents. Then we got to this place right at the beginning of the park:

It was a dugout tunnel underneath a railway, and as we were going through it to enter the park, some kids couldn't resist the temptation to holler around to test the acoustics in there.

My teacher dealt with it swiftly: "All right - then we're going back!". Yeah, just as he said. I remember being a little stunned back then. Can he do that? The whole "be quiet or we're going home" thing is not just a diplomatic request to calm us down? Some people are actually serious about it? They actually make us go back, not even with any further pleas? Yes, just like that - we went back, no trip for us. Understandably, some students were a bit annoyed at the loud kids, but it sure taught them. I still remember this situation whenever I see that tunnel.

Mr Keller would often do this later on too. Give one warning, and then immediately pull the plug if the kids don't give in. I believe it made perfect sense in the above situation, but in some cases, it was a little too harsh - the Win 3.11 software thing was one of them. We were about to discuss which software we would get, already collected a few ideas, and once again, it got a little too loud in that classroom. My teacher gave his warning, but this one girl was still chatting about something. So once again, Mr Keller said "All right, discussion over - we won't get any additional software then, and we won't discuss this in the future either".

I don't think this was appropriate, we should at least have been able to discuss this another time. My classmates were quite mad at that girl too, and the usefulness of our PC continued to be limited. Ah well, we still had some fun Solitaire sessions.


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Originally posted by Primrose6789

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Looks interesting.
I wouldn't mind giving it a try

Of course not, Vorpal! As we all know, you´re a BANHAUSER, too! :f_thumbsup::f_biggrin::f_ugly:

Well that might apply if I actually liked it. Merely trying it is OK — right?


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Originally posted by Harrier88

I would always go full screen just to watch that!


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Well that might apply if I actually liked it. Merely trying it is OK — right?

The Banhauser badge is something to wear with pride. :f_grin: I consider it evidence of a pioneering spirit.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I would always go full screen just to watch that!

Gotta love it. :f_love: The Freecell one too.

I remember some heated Solitaire strategy discussions in that classroom, where often groups of four or more kids, sometimes maybe even up to ten would gather around the PC to give their input on the game.

In one big discussion, the kid on the mouse would eventually exclaim "There's a timer in that game too, you know!". Another kid would then remark "The timer is just there for fun...", which is hilarious, because I would argue that the entire game is "just there for fun". Apparently, though, it was serious business for some people.

A few years ago, I remembered this situation while I was playing an online version of standard Klondike Solitaire for real money against other people. It made me smirk, because in that version, the time you had left at the end then got converted into points that determine the winner, so it really did turn into serious business when you have money on the line.


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As a substitute teacher I would often stand in for the computer science teacher.
If students were having difficulty with mouse accuracy, I would have them do 10 minutes of "minesweeper"


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
As a substitute teacher I would often stand in for the computer science teacher.
If students were having difficulty with mouse accuracy, I would have them do 10 minutes of "minesweeper"

Nice idea. :f_thumbsup:

When we had that classroom PC in 1999, being able to operate a computer was not necessarily expected of a 10-year-old, so the kids who had some experience, myself included, were assigned to shifting "computer duty" teams who would properly turn the PC on and off when someone wanted to use it or was done using it, and possibly help with other "tech issues". I'm sure you know how those 90's computers could be when they hadn't been properly shut down before turning off the power.

Maybe that was the reason why we got that PC in the classroom, so the kids could start to get acquainted with this kind of technology, even if their parents couldn't afford their own home computers.

Two years before that, in 2nd grade, my teacher already brought us what I think was an old Atari computer from the 80's. This one, however, fared much worse. My teacher did try to install other software, but it failed due to option 1 from this week's trivia question: That piece of crap wouldn't run it. Not even its standard word processor software seemed to be fully functional.

The only thing that did work was what must have been some kind of shareware version of a Sokoban-style game, with only one level unlocked. Apart from me, no one was able to beat it, though, so at least it kept the kids occupied during their free time.


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